Posts by individuals wife

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I HAVE BEEN FRAMED !

by Big Jim in

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friends

this is the story.

i have been operating a pay-day loan business for almost 2 years now.

i started out in business with a brother who passed away almost a year ago.

Amazing - I apologise if I sound overly judgemental, I just feel that very often these sort of schemes cause more problems than they solve.
I live in an area where wages are very low and a lot of young families have fallen into the trap of borrowing money from people who charge high interest. It is the high interest that causes many of them to default. In desperation I have known some to take out extra loans to cover the original debts thereby increasing the problem ever further.

There is now an alternative here which seems to be working very well and that is the local Credit Union, people can pay into the union when they have a bit to spare and can borrow more against it. Because a lot of the participants know each other they are more likely to honour their debts. A much more friendly concept don't you think?!

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I HAVE BEEN FRAMED !

by Big Jim in

jw
friends

this is the story.

i have been operating a pay-day loan business for almost 2 years now.

i started out in business with a brother who passed away almost a year ago.

individuals wife

I have seen the devasting effects that these sort of schemes can cause and I find it very distasteful that these poor people can be taken advantage of at a time when they are desperate. Lending money at such exorbitant rates of interest can lead to a ongoing downhill spiral of debt and borrowing more to pay off that debt.

I think it is a shame that people in dire financial straits have to
resort to these measures, all they are doing is making somebody else very rich.

Big Jim - Is this is a Christian way to treat people who are disadvantaged?

7

Looking to the future

by individuals wife in

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friends

it was a wonderful hope to be given - to live forever in a paradise earth, never to grow old, never to suffer the aches and pains of an ageing body, to see your family grow generation after generation.

it was a relief not having to worry about how we would survive on an old age pension, who would look after us in our twilight years or how we could manage if we were bereaved and left alone to look after ourselves with failing health.. now that the illusion has been destroyed and reality has set in it has put boundaries on our lifespan on this earth.

we have to look at practicalities, a pension, long term health care, securing a happy and comfortable retirement.

individuals wife

Stephanus -

I love to look at the pictures of paradise in my Christian publications and dream of my little patch of God's green Earth. I'm going to ask for the little farm down the road currently owned by that farmer with the vicious dogs. I'll really enjoy watching the carrion fowl pick his carcass.

I've met JWs with this attitude - makes you wonder how they can call themselves Christian.

One sister even believed that she 'deserved' a nice big palatial house in the new system because of all the 'hard work' she was doing in the field service now. It was as though she thought God owed her something.

I think in these circumstances you have to really examine the motives of people, why are they JWs - just for what they think they will get at the end of it??

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Looking to the future

by individuals wife in

jw
friends

it was a wonderful hope to be given - to live forever in a paradise earth, never to grow old, never to suffer the aches and pains of an ageing body, to see your family grow generation after generation.

it was a relief not having to worry about how we would survive on an old age pension, who would look after us in our twilight years or how we could manage if we were bereaved and left alone to look after ourselves with failing health.. now that the illusion has been destroyed and reality has set in it has put boundaries on our lifespan on this earth.

we have to look at practicalities, a pension, long term health care, securing a happy and comfortable retirement.

individuals wife

NameWithheld -

And the JW's call this materialistic, all the while planning on taking the nice homes and fancy cars over after Jah kills the owners!

Couldn't agree with you more on that one. I remember working in the field service with people who would go around choosing which luxurious house they would pick for themselves after Jehovah has destroyed the owner, used to make me really cringe. After all these people have worked hard for what they have achieved and the JWs concerned just did not have the motivation to get these things for themselves in 'this system'. Why work hard for it now when you can get it handed to you on a plate after Armageddon?

I think that it is a shame that in the future many JWs will find themselves in a situation of great hardship because they were not encouraged to provide for themselves long term.

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Colouring Book Orders being taken Now....Sick

by Latte in

just thought i'd show you this really sick colouring book.

sure to give your child hours of nightmares.

will also put the fear of god in them!

individuals wife

Hi Latte

I look at this picture and just wonder what sort of people would give a child this picture to colour in? It makes me sick to the bottom of my stomach and am so glad that I am no longer part of any of it.

I always remember the occasion when I took some colouring books to the meeting for my kids to amuse themselves with.... it was quite a long time before I realised that were all colouring in pictures of Santa Claus! Would have liked to have seen some of the elders faces if they'd noticed!!!

LOL

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Looking to the future

by individuals wife in

jw
friends

it was a wonderful hope to be given - to live forever in a paradise earth, never to grow old, never to suffer the aches and pains of an ageing body, to see your family grow generation after generation.

it was a relief not having to worry about how we would survive on an old age pension, who would look after us in our twilight years or how we could manage if we were bereaved and left alone to look after ourselves with failing health.. now that the illusion has been destroyed and reality has set in it has put boundaries on our lifespan on this earth.

we have to look at practicalities, a pension, long term health care, securing a happy and comfortable retirement.

individuals wife

It was a wonderful hope to be given - to live forever in a Paradise Earth, never to grow old, never to suffer the aches and pains of an ageing body, to see your family grow generation after generation. It was a relief not having to worry about how we would survive on an old age pension, who would look after us in our twilight years or how we could manage if we were bereaved and left alone to look after ourselves with failing health.

Now that the illusion has been destroyed and reality has set in it has put boundaries on our lifespan on this earth. We have to look at practicalities, a pension, long term health care, securing a happy and comfortable retirement. It can also be very hard to come to terms with our own mortality, we no longer have the millions of years ahead of us to fill with all the wonderful things we had planned. We may only have 60,70,80 years, maybe less, maybe more, to live our lives.

Do you find yourself now worrying about ageing and the associated problems, things that were never considered to be part of the deal in the world of the JWs?

I remember so often in the field service talking to people about what a wonderful prospect everlasting life was, how difficult is it to accept your own mortality and come to terms with the fact that your time on this earth is limited?

How do feel about growing old now?

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D.A. vs. Slow Fade

by Black Man in

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which is better in your estimation?

hit the borg with a d.a.

letter or do the slow fade.

individuals wife

For me personally I felt that the best way for me to leave with my head held high was to disassociate. I wanted the elders to know exactly why I had come to my decision, I didn't want them to be in any doubt. I had a lot of angst and bitterness to offload and wanted to make sure they had the whole picture.

I also felt as though I wanted to make a clean break, throw it all off completely, I had tried to drift away once before and found it quite difficult. It was noticed that I was drifting and I was constantly bombarded with unwanted attention, visits, phone calls, literature deliveries, I just wanted it all to go away. Eventually their tactics worked and I was trawled back in during a time of weakness.

This time I wanted it to be final, a complete severance. And it appears to have worked, no contact from any of them at all. Life is good again!

I know that for a lot of people disassociation is not such an easy option where there are family members still in the organisation. I appreciate that I was fortunate in being able to leave and have my husband come out with me. For others drifting quietly away may be a more appropriate course of action.

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Self-righteousness

by Vitameatavegamin in

i am brand new here.

just thought i would add my "two cents worth" as they say.

i basically have become very hurt and feel so let down.

individuals wife

Good to have you here with us, a very big welcome to you.

When I read your post I really felt for you, you have both been through such a traumatic time, a time when you really needed good support from those in the congregation and an acknowledgement from them that you were finding things difficult. I have found from experience that the majority of witnesses tend to lack real compassion and tend to isolate themselves from those in the congregation who may need extra support and help. I feel that you shouldnt have to go out looking for assistance - whether it be psychological or practical - it should come naturally to someone who professes to be Christian. It used to bother me that we used to have talks about how to love your brothers and sisters and how to make this love manifest. I always felt this love should be automatic in a true Christian congregation.

It's lovely to have you here amongst us!

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Strange ..... but true!

by individuals wife in

just thought i'd share these items with you... they made me laugh anyway!

wearing the trousers.

anne jonsson of stockholm attacked her husband lars - leaving him with a fractured skull, broken nose, a damaged cornea and various cuts and bruises - when he refused to take her to a rally against domestic violence.